28. The representative of France, Co-Chair of the TF on the Fitness of UN GTRs and UN Regulations for ADS (FADS), presented (GRVA-20-17) the status report of the group as well as the TFs on Automated Vehicle Regulation Screening under the other WP.29 subsidiary bodies that the TF on FADS was coordinating. He reconfirmed the timeline of the group and the ambition to deliver informal documents with amendments to UN Regulations Nos. 13, 13-H and 79 for consideration in January 2025.

29. GRVA noted the status report and looked forward to receiving the three informal documents for consideration in January 2025.

30. The representative of Germany presented, on behalf of the Co-Chairs of the TF on Automated Vehicle Categories (AVC), the status report (GRVA-20-18) of the Group, proposing two new subcategories X and Y. GRVA discussed the relevance of these definitions also for other TFs such as FADS and AVRS as well as the 6 km/h threshold proposed by the TF on AVC.

31. The representative of IMMA recalled that they considered it premature to include the Category L in the AVC deliberations. The representative of Germany recalled that the categories L6 and L7 included four-wheelers. The representative of France, Co-Chair of the TF on FADS explained that the Category L wasn’t the priority so far but also noted that an ecosystem of small quadricycles manufacturers not represented today at GRVA should not be neglected. GRVA encouraged the TFs on FADS and ACV to discuss IMMA’s position. GRVA invited IMMA to join the sessions of the two TFs.

32. The representative of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland (GRVA-20-26) presented the main outcome of the second GRVA workshop on scenarios held in London on 1-3 July 2024. He introduced the detailed summary (GRVA-20-05) of the workshop.

33. The representative of France presented (GRVA-20-31) the potential benefits of sharing scenarios for authorities or independent assessors. He proposed thoughts for next steps.

34. GRVA asked the Secretary whether GRVA can adopt standards for interoperability. The Secretary mentioned that there were precedents for this, for example: GRVA had adopted by reference ISO 11992, used for communication between the tractor and one or more trailers, in UN Regulation No. 13.

35. The representatives of AAPC, ITU, and SAFE advised to wait for the outcome of the IWG on ADS before focusing on that topic.

36. The representative of China recalled to GRVA the International Organization for Standardization (ISO) activities under Working Group 9 of the Technical Committee 22 on scenarios and the four standards already published. He referred to a previous presentation (see GRVA-16-24). He inquired whether the workshop could reflect on further needs that ISO could potentially address.

37. The representative of the Netherlands found the activities helpful but did not see them as a prerequisite for implementing the new ADS regulation being developed by the IWG on ADS.

38. The representative of Sweden felt the topic relevant as GRVA was defining, based on scenarios, minimum performance requirements for ADS.

39. The representative of the Russian Federation did not anticipate that the IWG on ADS could answer all questions or guide on how to derive concrete scenarios from the high level and functional scenarios it was developing.

40. The representative of ITU anticipated that scenarios would not be part of the first ADS regulation. He mentioned that UN Regulation No.171 (DCAS) had provisions on in-service monitoring and reporting as well as on scenarios, so scenarios would be in DCAS long before ADS.

41. GRVA agreed to get prepared for when scenarios would be needed and agreed to convene a workshop as proposed by France on 2 December 2024.