7.1. Carrycot
We will change L1 &L2 gabarit in Reg. n° 16. Marianne HYND (Newell Rubber Maid) will send the drawing package to OICA.
7.2. Integral ECRS with Shield systems
CLEPA will comes back with resolution later and complete document.
7.3. UMTRI installation procedure
Today, according to François RENAUDIN (DOREL), there are two different UMTRI procedures. One is for dynamic test and one for static evaluation of the adult belt routing on the dummy. The second subject is link to the dummy jacket with grid.
For the first procedure, up to now we can have data as tools are not ready. Labs have not serial production hip liner and can have only some prototype.
We will come back with results to the Chairman when tools & data will be available but CLEPA share first tests results with prototype.
Dinos VISVIKIS (CYBEX) makes the presentation CRS-59-14e. It is presented test results with & without UMTRI procedure at different test condition (without CRS, with good CRS & poor CRS). It was highlight that the new UMTRI procedures do not improve and increase submarining. The main problem is maybe coming from Q3 with bad design?
In the presentation CRS-59-15e, François RENAUDIN (DOREL) show also different tests results by comparison with / without UMTRI procedure. Tests was performed with Q3, Q6 & Q10; with a R44 booster CRS. In conclusion, with the CRS tested, UMTRI provokes important increase of head acceleration for Q6 & Q10 and not for Q3 and do not change other performance criteria.
7.4. Potential conflict between support leg and CRS envelope (CLEPA)
According to Marianne HYND (Newell Rubber Maid), there is some grey area about the support leg area between F2x & R2 envelope.
For Pierre CASTAING (UTAC & Chairman), if there is problem of interpretation of paragraph 6.3.5.1 [so] we have to change / adapt it in order to be clear for everybody but the IG agree that we can use this space.
The document CRS-59-12e is presented by Farid BENDJELLAL (BRITAX). The presentation highlight question about the use of the anti-rotation for belted CRS. Is support leg and top tether will be allowed? Today, the support leg position area is link to the isofix anchorage positions, but for phase III, products will be installed with adult safety belt, then should we change / increase this area? Could it be link to the buckle anchorage point?
Ansgar POTT (HYUNDAI). For forward facing belted products, the anti-rotation device is provided by the diagonal adult safety belt. For the support leg, do we have to test few area for the floor? Which area?
Pierre CASTAING (UTAC & Chairman), Universal products shall not use top tether. Top tether is for i-size or Isofix products, not for belted universal products. If the use of the top tether is only for passing test, we are making wrong way about the use of top tether. Today the Universal position is not link to the floor or to the top tether position.
7.5. Increased Pulse
Item not discussed.
7.6. Non integral Internal measurements (TRL)
Mark PITCHER from TRL makes the CRS-59-13e presentation as there is some interaction between the tools with the headrest when measuring the shoulder height for Non-integral products. The proposal from TRL is to measure only the shoulder height for any stature for Non-integral products. The IG agrees with proposal from TRL.
Erik SALTERS (DOREL), it’s also important to know how to use and make correct measurement with the measuring device.
Test methodologies for the measuring device are worked out by TSG.
7.7. Definition of a “Mechanism” (VTI).
The document CRS-59-11e presented by Tommy PETTERSSON (VTI) is coming from TSG group. Today, there is lot of i-size products on the market with visible & audible system to avoid the misuse, but there is also some products with only visible system. As some CRS manufacturer & labs are not in the IG and then does not know the philosophy of the [paragraph] 6.6.4.1.6.2, they can then have different point of interpretation. The following proposal from TSG group is made:
6.6.4.1.6.2. Without the anti-rotation device and without the shoulder strap positioner in use, unless a visual [or/and] an audible warning signal mechanism is provided to prevent incorrect use of the anti-rotation device and/or the shoulder strap positioner.
The IG proposes the following [paragraph] (included in CRS-59-11e Rev1)
6.6.4.1.6.2. Without the anti-rotation device and / or without the shoulder strap positioner in use, unless:is provided to prevent incorrect use of the anti-rotation device and/or the shoulder strap positioner.
But, finally, the decision of the IG is to split in two different [paragraphs]. Modification will be performed by the Chairman & the Secretary.