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Geneva
(Latest 23 February 2015)
Agenda
1. Welcome and opening remarks
2. Introduction of participants and organizations

Contracting Parties: France, Germany, China, Japan, UK, Netherland, European Commission, Austria
NGOs: ETRTO, JAMA, IMMA, OICA, WBU, CLEPA; ISO

3. Adoption of the agenda

Agenda adopted

REG58-QRTV-02-01/Rev.1 | Revised draft agenda for the 2nd session of the QRTV UN Regulation informal group
4. Approval of the minutes of the previous session

Minutes adopted

4.3. Review of presentation for GRB 61st session
5. Consideration of the key technical elements for the draft UN regulation
5.1. Exchange of information on national and international requirements

No new information available.

5.2. Presentation from stakeholder(s)

WBU referenced document REG58-QRTV-01-004 – WBU Comments on CLEPA-QRTV Report October 2014, that was already presented during the 1st meeting in Tokyo and pointed the importance to present the content to both GRB and WP29. WBU expressed the concerns that with the proposed waiving of a sound at stationary and the inclusion of a pause switch to be operated at the discretion of the driver, the pedestian’s safety would be in the hands of the driver rather than of the pedestrian. WBU underlined that a high SPL is one of the most important attributes of AVAS.

The Chair responded that most participants see the SPL as included in the proposed UN Regulation as sufficiently high to be well detectable. The level is derogated from scientific researches. WBU is invited to present further data that underlines the need for a higher SPL.

REG58-QRTV-01-04 | WBU Comments on CLEPA Report during 6th TF meeting of IWG GTR-QRTV Comments on the proposals and guidelines developed for acoustic vehicle alerting systems for quiet road vehicles.
5.3. Review of REG58-QRTV-02-04 - Presentation for GRB 61th session

The intent of this document is to report to GRB the state of play of the development of the UN Regulation for QRTV.

The document was reviewed and improvede by the group.

REG58-QRTV-02-04 | Progress report of the informal group on a QRTV UN Regulation
6. Discussion on UN regulation key technical elements
6.1. Review of the draft regulation

The draft Regulation REG58-QRTV-02-07 was reviewed. All changes made during the meeting are reflected in this document

REG58-QRTV-02-07 | Draft UN Regulation on the audibility of quiet road transport vehicles with comments Working draft pursuant to the second REG58-QRTV informal working group session.
6.2. Annex 3 paragraphs 4. Frequency shift

The annex was reviewed.

The remaining open issues shall be analyzed during next meeting :

  • Frequency resolution specification
  • Possibilities of specifications of Signal Noise Ratio have to be analyzed. e.g. spectrum at maximum sound pressure level, NPRM specification, …),
  • Number of passes for method A,
  • Development of Method F,
  • Final result (Left or right side, …)
  • Doppler effect (OICA)

REG58-QRTV-02-03 | Test procedures for AVAS frequency shift Test procedure proposal updated with comments from the 2nd REG58-QRTV group session.
6.3. Annex 1 (Communication)

Document was not reviewed during the meeting. Document on website will be reviewed during next meeting.

REG58-QRTV-02-05 | Draft Annex 1 (Communication) for the proposed new UN Regulation on the audibility of quiet road transport vehicles
6.4. Review of new specifications of 6.2.
6.4.1. OA sound level above limit +xx for vehicle without AVAS (§6.2)

Item was not reviewed during the meeting. Proposal shall be analyzed on next meeting.

6.4.2. Deactivation

Sentence proposed by Japan was accepted.

REG58-QRTV-02-06 | Deactivation provision for the proposed UN Regulation on the audibility of quiet road transport vehicles Draft text that would allow the installation and use of a prescribed "pause button" for the temporary deactivation of an audible vehicle alerting system (AVAS) while prohibiting any other form of deactivation.
6.4.3. Reverse alarm (§6.2.2.)

Item was not reviewed during the meeting. Proposal shall be analyzed on next meeting.

6.4.4. Cut-off of the sound after a certain speed

Item was not reviewed during the meeting. Proposal shall be analyzed on next meeting.

Item was not reviewed during the meeting.
ETRTO: This Item is not part of scope of terms of reference.

6.4.5. Specifications on maximum sound level for AVAS
7. Consolidation of key technical elements for next meeting

It was decided to present open issues to GRB during the 61st session and request clear direction how to solve them. Consolidation of key technical elements for next meeting.

All technical issues shall be developed during next meeting to be solved in May to make working document.

8. Any other business

All changes made during this meeting are shown in documents REG58-QRTV-02-02 & …02-03 with tracked changes. A new and clean document (REG58-QRTV-03-01) will be consolidated from those two documents as the working basis for the 3rd meeting.

REG58-QRTV-02-02 | Working draft of the proposed UN Regulation on audible alert systems for quiet vehicles
REG58-QRTV-02-03 | Test procedures for AVAS frequency shift Test procedure proposal updated with comments from the 2nd REG58-QRTV group session.
REG58-QRTV-03-01 | Consolidated draft of the proposed UN Regulation on the audibility of quiet road transport vehicles
9. Next meeting

26th February (10h00-18h00) and 27th february 2015 (9h00-17h00)
Brussels, CLEPA offices

11th May (time tbd) and 13th may 2015 (time tbd)
Seoul, Korea
Participant: OICA, ISO, ETRTO, WBU, JAPAN, GERMANY, KOREA
Non participant: CLEPA, AUSTRIA, UK
Tbc: EU COM, CHINA, TAIWAN

2d June 2015 (time tbd)
Drafting meeting to complete working document for timely submission to WP29, no changes to content
Brussels, precise location tbd

10. Adjournment