EC proposal to delete work on vehicle range and energy consumption testing and a method of stating energy consumption from the scope of the EVE group mandate (since these subjects are being pursued by other GRPE informal groups) and to extend the mandate duration.
Mr. Olechiw introduced the topic using document EVE-12-14e and by reviewing the text of the EV Guide (ECE/TRANS/WP.29/2014/81). A scope of work for the topic area was not presented; rather, using document EVE-12-05e, Japan informed the group that this issue should not be pursued by the EVE IWG, as it is or could be explored by other GRPE working groups (i.e. WLTP IWG). Referencing documents EVE-11-08e, 09e, 10e, and EVE-12-06e, the European Commission agreed with this position.
Mr. Per Ohlund presented EVE-12-07e, which detailed current EV work ongoing in the WLTP IWG. The WLTP IWG is currently in phase 1b of work and the future EV issues to be covered by the group in future work (phase 2 and 3) have not been decided by the group; also, phase 2 is not anticipated to start within the next year. There was disagreement among the group as to whether some topics proposed for investigation under this topic by the EVE IWG would be covered by future WLTP IWG. Mr. Olechiw requested the group to consider whether the EVE IWG could assist the WLTP IWG by conducting some EV-related work between now and the beginning of phase 2.
Overall, the majority of the group agreed the topic should not be part of the new EVE mandate and no party/organization volunteered to lead the topic. Mr. Olechiw requested the group revisit this decision on Day 2 of the meeting under agenda item 9.
Document EVE-12-06e, submitted by the European Commission, was not discussed in detail as the author was not present at the meeting, so it was recommended to add this document to the agenda of the next EVE meeting.
ACTION 2: The EVE Secretariat will add document EVE-12-06e to the agenda of the next EVE meeting.
Mr. Olechiw introduced the topic by reviewing the text of the EV Guide (ECE/TRANS/WP.29/2014/81) and China presented on their proposed scope of work for the topic using document EVE-12-10e-Rev1; China emphasized that determining the proper expression method for energy consumption was very needed. To carry out research related to this topic, they proposed three steps: 1) complete a study on the EV energy consumption evaluation method to be executed by main countries, 2) build a database and conduct comparative analysis on the energy structure for main countries worldwide, and 3) discuss the necessity and possibility to standardize the energy consumption method.
Discussion focused on whether this topic is suitable for exploration under the WP.29 forum and if contracting parties have the appropriate experts to complete work required for this topic. Referencing documents EVE-11-08e, 09e, 10e, and EVE-12-06e, the European Commission indicated it was their preference that work not be pursued on this topic in the new EVE mandate and Japan supported this position.
Understanding that China is supportive of this work, Mr. Olechiw requested the group consider the option of keeping this topic area in the new EVE mandate, but removing it from consideration for future GTR development. There was general support expressed by the group for this option and Mr. Olechiw requested the group revisit this decision under agenda item 9. There was some discussion concerning the possibility of developing a technical report, which could be added into the SR1 and/or RE3 documents; parties agreed to consider this and discuss it further at the next EVE meeting.
ACTION 3: Concerning future work under Topic 2, the EVE group will consider the development of a technical report that could be added into the SR1 and/or RE3 documents and discuss further at the next EVE meeting.
Mr. Olechiw introduced the topic using document EVE-12-14e and by reviewing the text of the EV Guide (ECE/TRANS/WP.29/2014/81). A scope of work for the topic area was not presented; rather, using document EVE-12-05e, Japan informed the group that this issue should not be pursued by the EVE IWG, as it is or could be explored by other GRPE working groups (i.e. WLTP IWG). Referencing documents EVE-11-08e, 09e, 10e, and EVE-12-06e, the European Commission agreed with this position.
Mr. Per Ohlund presented EVE-12-07e, which detailed current EV work ongoing in the WLTP IWG. The WLTP IWG is currently in phase 1b of work and the future EV issues to be covered by the group in future work (phase 2 and 3) have not been decided by the group; also, phase 2 is not anticipated to start within the next year. There was disagreement among the group as to whether some topics proposed for investigation under this topic by the EVE IWG would be covered by future WLTP IWG. Mr. Olechiw requested the group to consider whether the EVE IWG could assist the WLTP IWG by conducting some EV-related work between now and the beginning of phase 2.
Overall, the majority of the group agreed the topic should not be part of the new EVE mandate and no party/organization volunteered to lead the topic. Mr. Olechiw requested the group revisit this decision on Day 2 of the meeting under agenda item 9.
Document EVE-12-06e, submitted by the European Commission, was not discussed in detail as the author was not present at the meeting, so it was recommended to add this document to the agenda of the next EVE meeting.
ACTION 2: The EVE Secretariat will add document EVE-12-06e to the agenda of the next EVE meeting.
Mr. Olechiw introduced the topic by reviewing the text of the EV Guide (ECE/TRANS/WP.29/2014/81) and China presented on their proposed scope of work for the topic using document EVE-12-10e-Rev1; China emphasized that determining the proper expression method for energy consumption was very needed. To carry out research related to this topic, they proposed three steps: 1) complete a study on the EV energy consumption evaluation method to be executed by main countries, 2) build a database and conduct comparative analysis on the energy structure for main countries worldwide, and 3) discuss the necessity and possibility to standardize the energy consumption method.
Discussion focused on whether this topic is suitable for exploration under the WP.29 forum and if contracting parties have the appropriate experts to complete work required for this topic. Referencing documents EVE-11-08e, 09e, 10e, and EVE-12-06e, the European Commission indicated it was their preference that work not be pursued on this topic in the new EVE mandate and Japan supported this position.
Understanding that China is supportive of this work, Mr. Olechiw requested the group consider the option of keeping this topic area in the new EVE mandate, but removing it from consideration for future GTR development. There was general support expressed by the group for this option and Mr. Olechiw requested the group revisit this decision under agenda item 9. There was some discussion concerning the possibility of developing a technical report, which could be added into the SR1 and/or RE3 documents; parties agreed to consider this and discuss it further at the next EVE meeting.
ACTION 3: Concerning future work under Topic 2, the EVE group will consider the development of a technical report that could be added into the SR1 and/or RE3 documents and discuss further at the next EVE meeting.
To summarize the discussion of agenda items 4-8, Mr. Olechiw presented document EVE-12-11e, which presents the five topics under consideration for the new EVE mandate, major discussion points, and three options: maintain in the EVE mandate, modify in the EVE mandate, or remove from the EVE mandate. For each topic, the group discussed the options and decided on the preferable outcome (highlighted in red text in the document). The outcome of this discussion is summarized as follows:
Based on the above discussion, the EVE group considered the European Commission’s proposed changes (EVE-11-09e) to the new EVE mandate (ECE/TRANS/WP.29/2014/88). In preparation for the November 2014 WP.29 session and anticipated approval of ECE/TRANS/WP.29/2014/88, a new EVE-12 informal document (EVE-12-12e) was drafted. The EVE group agreed in principle to the changes presented in EVE-12-12e, but were requested to provide any further comments to the EVE Secretariat November 4, 2014. The intention of the EVE Secretariat was then to submit EVE-12-12e to the November WP.29 session as an informal document that would amend (ECE/TRANS/WP.29/2014/88).
ACTION 4: The EVE group will provide feedback to the EVE Secretariat on EVE-12-12e by November 4, 2014.
ACTION 5: The EVE Secretariat will submit EVE-12-12e as an informal document for consideration by WP.29 with ECE/TRANS/WP.29/2014/88.
Following on the above, the group initiated discussion on the path forward document (EVE-11-03e-Rev1). However, due to a lack of time, it was decided that this document, along with the European Commission’s comments (EVE-11-10e) would be further discussed at the next meeting. The EVE Secretary agreed to edit the document to incorporate the changes to the new EVE mandate outlined in EVE-12-12e.
ACTION 6: The EVE Secretariat will edit document EVE-11-03e-Rev1 to incorporate the changes to the new EVE mandate outlined in EVE-12-12e and add this issue to the next EVE meeting agenda.
Mr. Olechiw introduced the topic using document EVE-12-14e and by reviewing the text of the EV Guide (ECE/TRANS/WP.29/2014/81). A scope of work for the topic area was not presented; rather, using document EVE-12-05e, Japan informed the group that this issue should not be pursued by the EVE IWG, as it is or could be explored by other GRPE working groups (i.e. WLTP IWG). Referencing documents EVE-11-08e, 09e, 10e, and EVE-12-06e, the European Commission agreed with this position.
Mr. Per Ohlund presented EVE-12-07e, which detailed current EV work ongoing in the WLTP IWG. The WLTP IWG is currently in phase 1b of work and the future EV issues to be covered by the group in future work (phase 2 and 3) have not been decided by the group; also, phase 2 is not anticipated to start within the next year. There was disagreement among the group as to whether some topics proposed for investigation under this topic by the EVE IWG would be covered by future WLTP IWG. Mr. Olechiw requested the group to consider whether the EVE IWG could assist the WLTP IWG by conducting some EV-related work between now and the beginning of phase 2.
Overall, the majority of the group agreed the topic should not be part of the new EVE mandate and no party/organization volunteered to lead the topic. Mr. Olechiw requested the group revisit this decision on Day 2 of the meeting under agenda item 9.
Document EVE-12-06e, submitted by the European Commission, was not discussed in detail as the author was not present at the meeting, so it was recommended to add this document to the agenda of the next EVE meeting.
ACTION 2: The EVE Secretariat will add document EVE-12-06e to the agenda of the next EVE meeting.
Mr. Olechiw introduced the topic by reviewing the text of the EV Guide (ECE/TRANS/WP.29/2014/81) and China presented on their proposed scope of work for the topic using document EVE-12-10e-Rev1; China emphasized that determining the proper expression method for energy consumption was very needed. To carry out research related to this topic, they proposed three steps: 1) complete a study on the EV energy consumption evaluation method to be executed by main countries, 2) build a database and conduct comparative analysis on the energy structure for main countries worldwide, and 3) discuss the necessity and possibility to standardize the energy consumption method.
Discussion focused on whether this topic is suitable for exploration under the WP.29 forum and if contracting parties have the appropriate experts to complete work required for this topic. Referencing documents EVE-11-08e, 09e, 10e, and EVE-12-06e, the European Commission indicated it was their preference that work not be pursued on this topic in the new EVE mandate and Japan supported this position.
Understanding that China is supportive of this work, Mr. Olechiw requested the group consider the option of keeping this topic area in the new EVE mandate, but removing it from consideration for future GTR development. There was general support expressed by the group for this option and Mr. Olechiw requested the group revisit this decision under agenda item 9. There was some discussion concerning the possibility of developing a technical report, which could be added into the SR1 and/or RE3 documents; parties agreed to consider this and discuss it further at the next EVE meeting.
ACTION 3: Concerning future work under Topic 2, the EVE group will consider the development of a technical report that could be added into the SR1 and/or RE3 documents and discuss further at the next EVE meeting.
To summarize the discussion of agenda items 4-8, Mr. Olechiw presented document EVE-12-11e, which presents the five topics under consideration for the new EVE mandate, major discussion points, and three options: maintain in the EVE mandate, modify in the EVE mandate, or remove from the EVE mandate. For each topic, the group discussed the options and decided on the preferable outcome (highlighted in red text in the document). The outcome of this discussion is summarized as follows:
Based on the above discussion, the EVE group considered the European Commission’s proposed changes (EVE-11-09e) to the new EVE mandate (ECE/TRANS/WP.29/2014/88). In preparation for the November 2014 WP.29 session and anticipated approval of ECE/TRANS/WP.29/2014/88, a new EVE-12 informal document (EVE-12-12e) was drafted. The EVE group agreed in principle to the changes presented in EVE-12-12e, but were requested to provide any further comments to the EVE Secretariat November 4, 2014. The intention of the EVE Secretariat was then to submit EVE-12-12e to the November WP.29 session as an informal document that would amend (ECE/TRANS/WP.29/2014/88).
ACTION 4: The EVE group will provide feedback to the EVE Secretariat on EVE-12-12e by November 4, 2014.
ACTION 5: The EVE Secretariat will submit EVE-12-12e as an informal document for consideration by WP.29 with ECE/TRANS/WP.29/2014/88.
Following on the above, the group initiated discussion on the path forward document (EVE-11-03e-Rev1). However, due to a lack of time, it was decided that this document, along with the European Commission’s comments (EVE-11-10e) would be further discussed at the next meeting. The EVE Secretary agreed to edit the document to incorporate the changes to the new EVE mandate outlined in EVE-12-12e.
ACTION 6: The EVE Secretariat will edit document EVE-11-03e-Rev1 to incorporate the changes to the new EVE mandate outlined in EVE-12-12e and add this issue to the next EVE meeting agenda.