Equipping bus seats with three point belt according to UN Regulation No. 16
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Finnish Safety Investigation Authority has given recommendation to equip the seats of category M2 and M3</ vehicles with lap and shoulder belt type seat belts, i.e. three-point seat belts.

Reference Number: GRSP-66-08
Origin: Finland
Date: 3 December 2019
Meeting(s):
GRSP-66
Related Documents:
GRSP-70-06 | Three-point safety belts in buses and coaches
Discussion(s):
Working Party on Passive Safety | Session 67 | 20-23 Jul 2020

10. The expert from Finland reiterated his proposal (GRSP-66-08) on the possibility to have three-point safety-belts in M2 and M3 categories of vehicles. The expert from OICA argued that provisions on the fitting of safety-belts for buses are already in place in UN Regulations Nos. 16 and 80 (Strength of seats and their anchorages (buses)). The expert from EC clarified that for buses only the two-point belt fitting was mandatory on non-exposed seats. However, EC expert recommended that mandatory fitting of three-point safety-belts should be coupled by mandatory fitting of safety-belts reminders. The expert from Spain confirmed the statement of the expert from EC and informed GRSP that during the discussions within the IWG on how to secure children in buses, the group highlighted problems related to the use of two-point safety-belts. The expert from OICA recommended a real-world accident data approach to avoid lengthy discussion without any reasonable solution in sight. The expert from the Netherlands also recommended verifying accident data to provide basis for discussion. Finally, GRSP agreed to resume discussion on this subject at its May 2021 session.

11. Finally, GRSP agreed to defer discussion (GRSP-66-08) on the possibility to have three-point safety-belts in M2 and M3 categories of vehicles, to its December 2020 session.

14. GRSP agreed to defer discussion at its December 2021 session on GRSP-66-08, concerning the possibility to have three-point safety-belts in M2 and M3 categories of vehicles.

Working Party on Passive Safety | Session 68 | 7-11 Dec 2020

10. The expert from Finland reiterated his proposal (GRSP-66-08) on the possibility to have three-point safety-belts in M2 and M3 categories of vehicles. The expert from OICA argued that provisions on the fitting of safety-belts for buses are already in place in UN Regulations Nos. 16 and 80 (Strength of seats and their anchorages (buses)). The expert from EC clarified that for buses only the two-point belt fitting was mandatory on non-exposed seats. However, EC expert recommended that mandatory fitting of three-point safety-belts should be coupled by mandatory fitting of safety-belts reminders. The expert from Spain confirmed the statement of the expert from EC and informed GRSP that during the discussions within the IWG on how to secure children in buses, the group highlighted problems related to the use of two-point safety-belts. The expert from OICA recommended a real-world accident data approach to avoid lengthy discussion without any reasonable solution in sight. The expert from the Netherlands also recommended verifying accident data to provide basis for discussion. Finally, GRSP agreed to resume discussion on this subject at its May 2021 session.

11. Finally, GRSP agreed to defer discussion (GRSP-66-08) on the possibility to have three-point safety-belts in M2 and M3 categories of vehicles, to its December 2020 session.

14. GRSP agreed to defer discussion at its December 2021 session on GRSP-66-08, concerning the possibility to have three-point safety-belts in M2 and M3 categories of vehicles.

Working Party on Passive Safety | Session 69 | 17-21 May 2021

10. The expert from Finland reiterated his proposal (GRSP-66-08) on the possibility to have three-point safety-belts in M2 and M3 categories of vehicles. The expert from OICA argued that provisions on the fitting of safety-belts for buses are already in place in UN Regulations Nos. 16 and 80 (Strength of seats and their anchorages (buses)). The expert from EC clarified that for buses only the two-point belt fitting was mandatory on non-exposed seats. However, EC expert recommended that mandatory fitting of three-point safety-belts should be coupled by mandatory fitting of safety-belts reminders. The expert from Spain confirmed the statement of the expert from EC and informed GRSP that during the discussions within the IWG on how to secure children in buses, the group highlighted problems related to the use of two-point safety-belts. The expert from OICA recommended a real-world accident data approach to avoid lengthy discussion without any reasonable solution in sight. The expert from the Netherlands also recommended verifying accident data to provide basis for discussion. Finally, GRSP agreed to resume discussion on this subject at its May 2021 session.

11. Finally, GRSP agreed to defer discussion (GRSP-66-08) on the possibility to have three-point safety-belts in M2 and M3 categories of vehicles, to its December 2020 session.

14. GRSP agreed to defer discussion at its December 2021 session on GRSP-66-08, concerning the possibility to have three-point safety-belts in M2 and M3 categories of vehicles.