GRSG-110-13
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Proposal for amendments to the 01 series of amendments to Regulation No. 67
(LG Europe)
Description
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Proposal to insert new safety provisions with regard to LPG systems having hydraulic interconnections with the petrol or diesel fueling system through which inter-flows of fuels may occur.
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Document Reference Number: GRSG-110-13
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Submitted by: LG Europe
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Document date: 25 Apr 16
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Document status: Superseded
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Related regulations or topics
Related documents
GRSG-109-21 | Proposal for amendments to the 01 series of amendments to Regulation No. 67
GRSG/2015/35 | Proposal for amendments to the 01 series of amendments to Regulation No. 67
GRSG/2016/15 | Proposal for a Supplement to the 01 series of amendments to Regulation No. 67
Related discussions
110th GRSG session (25-29
Apr 2016)
25. The expert from AEGPL introduced GRSG-110-13, superseding his proposal ECE/TRANS/WP.29/GRSG/2015/35 and proposing new provisions to prevent a flow of liquefied petroleum gas (LPG) into the petrol or diesel tank, and vice versa. GRSG noted general support on the updated proposal. Following a study reservation by the expert from France, GRSG decided to have a final review of the proposal at its next session in October 2016 and requested the secretariat to circulate GRSG-110-13 with an official symbol.
27. The expert from AEGPL gave a presentation (GRSG-109-15) justifying the insertion into UN Regulation No. 67 of new provisions to prevent a flow of liquefied petroleum gas (LPG) into the petrol or diesel tank, and vice versa (ECE/TRANS/WP.29/GRSG/2015/35). The expert from Spain raised concerns on the possible interpretation of the new provisions and preferred clear test requirements. The experts from France and Sweden endorsed that position. The expert from Germany introduced GRSG-109-12 proposing some improved text to ECE/TRANS/WP.29/GRSG/2015/35. He raised concerns on the possible leakage of the different fuel types and questioned the need to install redundant valves.
28. Following the discussion, the expert from AEGPL introduced GRSG-109-21 superseding ECE/TRANS/WP.29/GRSG/2015/35. The experts from France and Spain raised a study reservation. Thus, GRSG agreed to resume consideration of this subject at its next session on the basis of a revised proposal by AEGPL, taking into account the comments received.
25. The expert from AEGPL introduced ECE/TRANS/WP.29/GRSG/2016/15 which proposes to insert new safety provisions into UN Regulation No. 67 on Liquefied Petroleum Gas (LPG) systems having hydraulic interconnections with the petrol or diesel fuelling system through which inter-flows of fuels might occur. The expert from Germany objected to the adoption of the proposal as safety risks (overfill of tank) still remain, particularly, since a small amount of flow of petrol into the LPG tank was still possible. The expert from the United Kingdom underlined the need to cross-check all references of paragraphs in the proposal. GRSG agreed to have a final review of the proposal at its next session in April 2017 on the basis of a revised document to be submitted by AEGPL.
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25 Apr 2016
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Working Party
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Informal Documents
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Liquefied Petroleum Gas Equipment
LPG Equipment
Uniform Provisions Concerning the Approval of:
I. Specific Equipment of Motor Vehicles Using Liquefied Petroleum Gases in their Propulsion System
II. A Vehicle Fitted with Specific Equipment for the Use of Liquefied Petroleum Gases in its Propulsion System with regard to the Installation of such Equipment
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Proposal to insert new safety provisions with regard to LPG systems having hydraulic interconnections with the petrol or diesel fueling system through which inter-flows of fuels may occur.
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GRSG-110-0013
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GRSG-110-25
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Proposal for amendments to Regulation No. 67
(Netherlands)
Description
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Proposal of corrections to document GRSG/2016/7. The wording of the original proposal opens the possible interpretation that the regulation allows materials other than copper, stainless steel, or steel with corrosion-resistant coatings for gas tubes. The intention of the proposal was only to allow for “non-seamless” gas tubing. The original proposal is therefore modified to allow Class 0/I hoses with couplings using gas tubes of other than seamless material.
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Document Reference Number: GRSG-110-25
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Submitted by: Netherlands
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Document date: 27 Apr 16
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Document status: Superseded
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Related regulations or topics
Related documents
GRSG/2016/7 | Proposal for amendments to Regulation No. 67
GRSG-111-19 | Proposal for amendments to UN Regulation No. 67
Related discussions
110th GRSG session (25-29
Apr 2016)
26. Recalling the purpose of ECE/TRANS/WP.29/GRSG/2016/7, the expert from the Netherlands presented GRSG-110-25 amending the provisions of UN Regulation No. 67 on LPG vehicles to allow Class 0/I hoses with couplings using gas tubes other than seamless material. GRSG noted a number of comments on the need for detailed testing specifications for type approval purposes and for clarification of the responsibilities. The Chair of GRSG invited all experts to send their written comments to the expert from the Netherlands. GRSG agreed to resume consideration of this subject at its next session in October 2016 on the basis of an updated official document by the Netherlands taking into account the comments received.
24. The expert from the Netherlands presented GRSG-111-19 superseding ECE/TRANS/WP.29/GRSG/2016/7 and amending the provisions of UN Regulation No. 67 on LPG vehicles to allow Class 0/I hoses with couplings using gas tubes other than seamless material. The document received a number of comments. GRSG noted study reservations by the experts from Germany and AEGPL. GRSG reviewed the proposal as reflected in GRSG-111-19-Rev.1 and agreed to resume consideration of this subject at its next session in April 2017. The secretariat was requested to circulate GRSG-111-19-Rev.1 with an official symbol.
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28 Apr 2016
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Working Party
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Informal Documents
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Liquefied Petroleum Gas Equipment
LPG Equipment
Uniform Provisions Concerning the Approval of:
I. Specific Equipment of Motor Vehicles Using Liquefied Petroleum Gases in their Propulsion System
II. A Vehicle Fitted with Specific Equipment for the Use of Liquefied Petroleum Gases in its Propulsion System with regard to the Installation of such Equipment
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Proposal of corrections to document GRSG/2016/7. The wording of the original proposal opens the possible interpretation that the regulation allows materials other than copper, stainless steel, or steel with corrosion-resistant coatings for gas tubes. The intention of the proposal was only to allow for "non-seamless" gas tubing. The original proposal is therefore modified to allow Class 0/I hoses with couplings using gas tubes of other than seamless material.
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GRSG-110-0025
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GRSG/2016/7
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Proposal for amendments to Regulation No. 67
(Netherlands)
Description
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Proposal to allow the use of Class 0 hoses with couplings using sealing technologies other than those with a 45° cone. Currently, non-seamless double and single wall tubes are used in brake and fuel tubing applications, allowing for the use of a variety of end forms and coupling techniques. Provided the tubing can withstand the applicable tests according to Annex 15, Table 1, such configurations should be permitted under UN R67 in order to remove an unwarranted design restriction.
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Document Reference Number: GRSG/2016/7
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Submitted by: Netherlands
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Document date: 11 Feb 16
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Document status: Superseded
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More information
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Related regulations or topics
Related documents
GRSG-109-14 | ISO/TC22/SC41: Specific aspects for gaseous fuels
GRSG-110-25 | Proposal for amendments to Regulation No. 67
GRSG-111-19 | Proposal for amendments to UN Regulation No. 67
Related discussions
110th GRSG session (25-29
Apr 2016)
26. Recalling the purpose of ECE/TRANS/WP.29/GRSG/2016/7, the expert from the Netherlands presented GRSG-110-25 amending the provisions of UN Regulation No. 67 on LPG vehicles to allow Class 0/I hoses with couplings using gas tubes other than seamless material. GRSG noted a number of comments on the need for detailed testing specifications for type approval purposes and for clarification of the responsibilities. The Chair of GRSG invited all experts to send their written comments to the expert from the Netherlands. GRSG agreed to resume consideration of this subject at its next session in October 2016 on the basis of an updated official document by the Netherlands taking into account the comments received.
29. The expert from ISO presented GRSG-109-14 on the progress of work within the ISO working group on refueling connector and fuel components for vehicles propelled by Liquefied Natural Gas (LNG). He underlined the request from original equipment manufacturers to update UN Regulation No. 67 with respect to LPG fuel lines and welding requirements.
32. Referring to his presentation (GRSG-109-14) given under agenda item 8 (para. 28 above), the expert from ISO volunteered to submit for the next GRSG session an official document proposing to amend the provisions of Annex 4B of UN Regulation No. 110, including the correction of some errors in Annexes 4A and 4H.
24. The expert from the Netherlands presented GRSG-111-19 superseding ECE/TRANS/WP.29/GRSG/2016/7 and amending the provisions of UN Regulation No. 67 on LPG vehicles to allow Class 0/I hoses with couplings using gas tubes other than seamless material. The document received a number of comments. GRSG noted study reservations by the experts from Germany and AEGPL. GRSG reviewed the proposal as reflected in GRSG-111-19-Rev.1 and agreed to resume consideration of this subject at its next session in April 2017. The secretariat was requested to circulate GRSG-111-19-Rev.1 with an official symbol.
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11 Feb 2016
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Working Party
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Formal Documents
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Liquefied Petroleum Gas Equipment
LPG Equipment
Uniform Provisions Concerning the Approval of:
I. Specific Equipment of Motor Vehicles Using Liquefied Petroleum Gases in their Propulsion System
II. A Vehicle Fitted with Specific Equipment for the Use of Liquefied Petroleum Gases in its Propulsion System with regard to the Installation of such Equipment
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Proposal to allow the use of Class 0 hoses with couplings using sealing technologies other than those with a 45° cone. Currently, non-seamless double and single wall tubes are used in brake and fuel tubing applications, allowing for the use of a variety of end forms and coupling techniques. Provided the tubing can withstand the applicable tests according to Annex 15, Table 1, such configurations should be permitted under UN R67 in order to remove an unwarranted design restriction.
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GRSG/2016/0007
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