GRSG-110-04
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GRE comments regarding UN Regulations Nos. 107 and 121
GRE comments regarding UN Regulations Nos. 107 and 121
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Description
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Communication to GRSG of work within GRE concerning electromagnetic compatibility provisions for trolley buses (UN R10 and UN R107) and on approval of amendments to UN R7, 87, and 48 concerning lighting failure indicators that may impact UN R121 on telltales and indicators.
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Date: 12 Apr 16
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110th GRSG session (25-29
Apr 2016)
6. The expert from Belgium presented ECE/TRANS/WP.29/GRSG/2016/5 proposing to remove the new safety prescriptions for trolleybuses from UN Regulation No. 107 and insert them into UN Regulation No. 100 on electric power trained vehicles. The expert from UK raised concerns about the differences in the scopes of both Regulations and their application to trolleybuses. GRSG noted the comments by the Working Party on Lighting and Light-Signalling (GRE) about possible alignments of UN Regulations Nos. 107 and 116 with UN Regulation No. 10 on electromagnetic-compatibility (GRSG-110-04). The expert from OICA introduced GRSG-110-08-Rev.1 on the applicability of UN Regulation No. 100 versus Annex 12 of UN Regulation No. 107 with respect to electrical safety provisions. The expert from France explained that the origin of the current problem of trolleybuses was linked to the application of the European Union (EU) legislation on whole vehicle type approval. The expert from Japan informed GRSG about the intention of the Chair of GRE to seek the advice of WP.29 on this subject at the forthcoming session in June 2016. The GRSG Chair questioned the need to also involve the experts of the Working Party on Passive Safety (GRSP) in charge of UN Regulation No. 100. A number of experts expressed their preference to keep the electric safety provisions within UN Regulation No. 107. Thus, GRSG agreed that the experts of the Working Parties concerned should work on a simple solution avoiding further burden for public transport operators. The expert from Belgium volunteered to conduct a more detailed analysis on the compatibility or incompatibility of the scopes and technical provisions for trolleybuses of UN Regulations Nos. 10, 100 and 107.
7. GRSG agreed to resume consideration of this subject at its next session in October 2016 awaiting the outcome of the analysis by Belgium. GRSG requested the secretariat to keep ECE/TRANS/WP.29/GRSG/2016/5 on the agenda as a reference document.
45. GRSG noted the outcome of the recent session of GRE (GRSG-110-04) and the request to align UN Regulation No. 121. In this respect, the expert from Italy presented GRSG-110-06 aimed at clarifying the provisions of UN Regulation No. 121 with respect to the indication of the failure of a light source.
46. GRSG adopted the proposal as reproduced in Annex IV to this report and requested the secretariat to submit it to WP.29 and AC.1 for consideration at their November 2016 sessions, as draft Supplement 9 to the original version of UN Regulation No. 121 and as draft Supplement 1 to the 01 series of amendments to UN Regulation No. 121.
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13 Apr 2016
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Working Party
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Informal Documents
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Construction of Coaches and Buses
Coach and Bus Construction
Uniform Provisions Concerning the Approval of Category M2 or M3 Vehicles with regard to their General Construction
Location and Identification of Hand Controls, Tell-tales and Indicators
Hand Controls, Tell-tales and Indicators
Uniform Provisions Concerning the Approval of Vehicles with regard to the Location and Identification of Hand Controls, Tell-tales and Indicators
Position, Stop and End-outline Lamps
Position, stop and end-outline lamps
Uniform Provisions Concerncing the Approval of Front and Rear Position (Side) Lamps, Stop-Lamps and End-Outline Marker Lamps for Motor Vehicles (Except Motor Cycles)and their Trailers
Electromagnetic Compatibility
Electromagnetic Compatibility
Uniform provisions concerning the approval of vehicles with regard to electromagnetic compatibility
Installation of Lighting and Lighting-Signalling Equipment
Installation of Lighting
Uniform Provisions Concerning the Approval of Vehicles with regard to the Installation of Lighting and Light-signalling Devices
Daytime Running Lamps
Daytime Running Lamps
Uniform Provisions Concerning the Approval of Daytime Running Lamps for Power-driven Vehicles
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Communication to GRSG of work within GRE concerning electromagnetic compatibility provisions for trolley buses (UN R10 and UN R107) and on approval of amendments to UN R7, 87, and 48 concerning lighting failure indicators that may impact UN R121 on telltales and indicators.
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GRSG-110-0004
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GRSG-110-06
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Draft proposal for Supplement 1 to the 01 series of amendments to UN Regulation No. 121
(France, Germany, and Italy)
Draft proposal for Supplement 1 to the 01 series of amendments to UN Regulation No. 121
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Description
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Proposal to enable the use of alternate colors (per footnote 18 of Table 1 and in line with ISO Standard 2575) for certain lighting tell-tales in order to indicate light source failures in response to the proposals for light failure indicators under UN Regulations Nos. 7, 48 and 87 (GRE/2016/7, GRE/2016/12 and GRE/2016/17) as adopted by GRE. This proposal anticipates use of the same approach in response to plans for additional failure indication requirements for other lighting regulations.
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Submitted by: France, Germany, and Italy
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Date: 25 Apr 16
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Status: Superseded
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GRE/2016/7 | Proposal for supplements to the 04, 05, and 06 series of amendments to UN Regulation No. 48
GRE/2016/12 | Proposal for Supplement 25 to the 02 series of amendments to Regulation No. 7
GRE/2016/17 | Proposal for Supplement 18 to Regulation No. 87
WP.29/2016/96 | Proposal for Supplement 9 to Regulation No. 121
WP.29/2016/97 | Proposal for Supplement 1 to the 01 series of amendments to Regulation No. 121
GRSG/2019/17 | UN R121: Proposal for Supplement 11 to the original series and Supplement 4 to the 01 series of amendments
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110th GRSG session (25-29
Apr 2016)
45. GRSG noted the outcome of the recent session of GRE (GRSG-110-04) and the request to align UN Regulation No. 121. In this respect, the expert from Italy presented GRSG-110-06 aimed at clarifying the provisions of UN Regulation No. 121 with respect to the indication of the failure of a light source.
46. GRSG adopted the proposal as reproduced in Annex IV to this report and requested the secretariat to submit it to WP.29 and AC.1 for consideration at their November 2016 sessions, as draft Supplement 9 to the original version of UN Regulation No. 121 and as draft Supplement 1 to the 01 series of amendments to UN Regulation No. 121.
16. The expert from the Netherlands, in his capacity of Chair of the Task Force on Tell-Tales (TF TT), introduced revised proposals for amendments to Regulations Nos. 48, 7 and 87 on tell-tales which indicate a failure (ECE/TRANS/WP.29/GRE/2016/7, ECE/TRANS/WP.29/GRE/2016/12 and ECE/TRANS/WP.29/GRE/2016/17). GRE adopted the proposals and decided to submit them to WP.29 and AC.1 for consideration and vote at their November 2016 sessions as draft Supplement 17 to the 04 series of amendments, draft Supplement 10 to the 05 series of amendments and draft Supplement 8 to the 06 series of amendments to Regulation No. 48, draft Supplement 25 to the 02 series of amendments to Regulation No. 7 and draft Supplement 18 to Regulation No. 87.
17. Several experts pointed out that the adopted amendments might also require an amendment to paragraph 5.4. of Regulation No. 121 (Identification of controls, tell-tales and indicators), but no consensus was reached on this issue. GRE invited the Working Party on General Safety Provisions (GRSG), which deals with Regulation No. 121, to address this matter.
26. GRE recalled that ECE/TRANS/WP.29/GRE/2016/12 had been discussed and adopted together with ECE/TRANS/WP.29/GRE/2016/7 (see para. 16 above).
43. GRE noted that ECE/TRANS/WP.29/GRE/2016/17 was discussed and adopted together with ECE/TRANS/WP.29/GRE/2016/7 (see para. 16 above).
55. The expert from OICA introduced ECE/TRANS/WP.29/GRSG/2019/17 to use more colours to convey information via existing tell-tales. Upon request by experts from different contracting parties, she explained the principle colour coding, namely “green” for function running, “yellow” for information warning, “red” for danger warning, “white” for information and “blue” for information of high beam.
56. GRSG adopted ECE/TRANS/WP.29/GRSG/2019/17 and requested the secretariat to submit it to WP.29 and AC.1 as draft supplement 04 to the 01 series of amendments to UN Regulation No. 121 for consideration at their March 2020 sessions.
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25 Apr 2016
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Working Party
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Informal Documents
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Location and Identification of Hand Controls, Tell-tales and Indicators
Hand Controls, Tell-tales and Indicators
Uniform Provisions Concerning the Approval of Vehicles with regard to the Location and Identification of Hand Controls, Tell-tales and Indicators
Position, Stop and End-outline Lamps
Position, stop and end-outline lamps
Uniform Provisions Concerncing the Approval of Front and Rear Position (Side) Lamps, Stop-Lamps and End-Outline Marker Lamps for Motor Vehicles (Except Motor Cycles)and their Trailers
Installation of Lighting and Lighting-Signalling Equipment
Installation of Lighting
Uniform Provisions Concerning the Approval of Vehicles with regard to the Installation of Lighting and Light-signalling Devices
Daytime Running Lamps
Daytime Running Lamps
Uniform Provisions Concerning the Approval of Daytime Running Lamps for Power-driven Vehicles
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Proposal to enable the use of alternate colors (per footnote 18 of Table 1 and in line with ISO Standard 2575) for certain lighting tell-tales in order to indicate light source failures in response to the proposals for light failure indicators under UN Regulations Nos. 7, 48 and 87 (GRE/2016/7, GRE/2016/12 and GRE/2016/17) as adopted by GRE. This proposal anticipates use of the same approach in response to plans for additional failure indication requirements for other lighting regulations.
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GRSG-110-0006
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GRSG-110-14
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Proposal to amend ECE/TRANS/WP.29/GRSG/2015/24
Proposal to amend ECE/TRANS/WP.29/GRSG/2015/24
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Proposal to add a telltale and symbols for “Accident Emergency Call System (AECS)”.
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Date: 25 Apr 16
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Status: Superseded
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GRSG/2015/24 | Proposal for amendments to Regulation No. 121
GRSG/2016/17 | Proposal for Supplement 1 to the 01 series of amendments to Regulation No. 121
Related discussions
110th GRSG session (25-29
Apr 2016)
44. The expert from the Russian Federation recalled that the purpose of documents ECE/TRANS/WP.29/GRSG/2015/24 and GRSG-110-14 was to insert into UN Regulation No. 121 a new symbol for the emergency call control and tell-tale. The proposal received the full support of GRSG. However, it was agreed to submit it in parallel with the new draft Regulation on AECS (para. 47 below). Thus, GRSG preferred to keep the document on the agenda and requested the secretariat to circulate GRSG-110-14 with an official symbol.
42. On behalf of the IWG on Accident Emergency Call Systems (AECS), the expert from the Russian Federation introduced ECE/TRANS/WP.29/GRSG/2015/24 proposing to insert into UN Regulation No. 121 a new symbol for the emergency call control and tell-tale. The expert from OICA announced his intention to submit, for consideration at the next GRSG session, a clarification of the proposed symbol.
43. GRSG agreed to keep the document on the agenda and to have a final review of ECE/TRANS/WP.29/GRSG/2015/24 at the April 2016 session. It was also agreed to submit the proposal to amend UN Regulation No. 121 in parallel with the new draft Regulation on AECS (para. 50 below).
41. The expert from the Russian Federation recalled that the purpose of document ECE/TRANS/WP.29/GRSG/2016/17 was to insert into UN Regulation No. 121 a new symbol for the emergency call control and tell-tale. GRSG noted an editorial correction to footnote 21 (replace ‘reoriented’ by ‘re-orientated’) and agreed to submit it to WP.29 in parallel with the new draft Regulation on AECS (paras. 44-48 below).
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25 Apr 2016
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Working Party
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Informal Documents
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Accident Emergency Call Systems
Accident Emergency Call Systems
Uniform provisions concerning the approval of emergency call devices and motor vehicles with regard to the installation of these devices.
Location and Identification of Hand Controls, Tell-tales and Indicators
Hand Controls, Tell-tales and Indicators
Uniform Provisions Concerning the Approval of Vehicles with regard to the Location and Identification of Hand Controls, Tell-tales and Indicators
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Proposal to add a telltale and symbols for “Accident Emergency Call System (AECS)”.
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GRSG-110-0014
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