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1. | Welcome and roll call |
1. Welcome and Roll call (eCRS-49-07e)
CRS-49-07 | List of participants from the 49th CRS informal working group session
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2. | Adoption of the agenda |
2. Adoption of the updated agenda (CRS-49-01e rev 1)
CRS-49-01 | Draft agenda for the 49th CRS informal working group session
CRS-49-01/Rev.1 | Revised agenda for the 49th CRS informal group session
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3. | Approval of the minutes of the previous session |
3. Validation of the minutes of the last meeting (CRS-48-14e) with some modifications (CRS-48-14e Rev 1) where OICA objects to the limits as written (in paragraph 4.6 of the minutes) and objected on the integration of the ISOFIX connectors in the R16 drawing (in paragraph 5 of the minutes).
CRS-48-14 | Draft minutes of the 48th CRS informal working group session
CRS-48-14/Rev.1 | Revised minutes of the 48th CRS informal working group session
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4. | Report on the 56th GRSP session |
4. Report of the 5th session of GRSP (ECE-TRANS-WP29-GRSP-56e) from the Chairman :
The expert from France informed GRSP that, for the time being, the IWG does not have the resources to provide a corresponding Addendum to the M.R.1. to include drawings and specifications of the Q dummies, due to their number and complexity. He explained that the IWG likely would reallocate resources in the future to cover this issue. Finally, he asked for a one year extension of mandate of the IWG to develop Phase 3 of the UN Regulation (covering CRS using adult safety-belts to restrain children). The expert from Germany underlined that the initial purpose of the UN Regulation, to incorporate for better clarity all provisions concerning universal ISOFIX, had been compromised by covering a number of different CRS categories. Finally, GRSP agreed to seek the endorsement of WP.29 to extend the mandate of the IWG until December 2015. GRSP considered and adopted GRSP-56-31-Rev.1, to prevent installation of y-shaped straps on forward facing CRS, as reproduced in Annex V of this report. The secretariat was requested to submit the proposal to WP.29 and AC.1, for consideration and vote at their March 2015 sessions, as draft Supplement 4 to the UN Regulation No. 129 (ECE/TRANS/WP.29/2015/43). The experts from CLEPA and CI introduced respectively GRSP-56-24 and GRSP-56-27, as a draft brochure for a coordinated information campaign on UN Regulation No. 129. The expert from Germany announced that a similar initiative would be published soon in his country. GRSP agreed to resume discussion on this subject on the basis of a possible common text agreed by interested parties. Chairman : Phase II cover up to 135cm for lateral impact. The issue concerning what to do from 135 cm up to 150 cm for booster cushions still remains. Lateral protection will not be mandatory over a stature of 135 cm, for universal R129 ECRS but still remains possible for specific to vehicle R129 ECRS. European Commission: Peter BROERTJES informed the working group that the EC is not fully satisfied with the current content of phase 2. EC highlights the fact that the Q dummies are not able to predict correctly child abdomen injury due to submarining with booster seats. The EC contracted TRL to conduct a study on that topic to potentially modify dummies, test setup or test conditions. This study should be terminated end of 2015. Even if such investigation has already been undertaken previously by other stakeholders without success, it will delay very probably the adoption of regulation 129 phase 2 at least by 6 months. Some clarifications to the original text have been brought concerning several aspects :
OICA : Can we have specific booster cushions below 125 cm?
The updated document is under CRS-49-03e Reiner NETT (TAKATA) : can a universal booster exist claiming a stature greater than 135 cm ? A list of items to be reviewed for phase II (CRS-49-05e) was drafted during the meeting by the group. A leader for each item was appointed.
Items to be review for phase III (CRS-49-05e) listed during the meeting by the group :
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5. | Terms of reference for year 2015 |
[Not discussed] |
6. | Validation of final Phase 2 documents for vote at next GRSP (ECE R16 & ECE E129) | |
6.1. | BRITAX – DOREL : Q10 Vertical Head Excursion |
EPOCH demonstrated that the head vertical plane may need to be increased for Q10. Question from OICA : All presented tests was performed with ISOFIX connection between the test bench and the booster, could you test without the use of ISOFIX connection ?
CRS-49-06 | UN Regulation No. 129: Q10 head vertical excursion
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6.2. | TRL – EC : in depth assessment of proposed amendment |
Background on the child safety projects / reports for the European Commission. The objectives are to support the Commission during the further development of the R129, to expedite final discussions and drafting of the second phase & to support discussions on the third phase of proposals. The project is structured in 3 tasks:
CRS-49-04 | In-depth assessment of proposed amendments to UN Regulation No. 129
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6.3. | German approach to UN R129 Phase II validation |
Richard DAMM : We moved away from the objective 1; to make true universal CRS. We are now almost rewriting R44. We do see the improvements like Q dummies and new limits, but not the full potential that we had. Chairman answer : For phase I , we push ISOFIX mandatory for rearward facing up to 15 month, for integral in forward facing up to 105 cm at least. For booster seat, there is some issue with R16 about the number of ISOFIX in car, the safety belt interaction with ISOFIX anchors. We have to work on the current R16. Richard DAMM: why new regulation and not modify R44 ? |
7. | Work on Phase 3 |
Postponed until next meeting. |
8. | Next meetings |
50th meeting will be held in March, the 18 & 19, PARIS, OICA (starting at 9.30) |
9. | Any other business |