Term of reference for phases 2& 3
Issues concerning ToR
Phase 2 proposed philosophy
“Universal Booster” proposed definition / Geometry of Boosters
On going issues for Phase 2
Phase 3 Open issues
Pros & Cons
Draft proposal for Transitional Provisions
Proposed time- table for phase 2 & 3

CLEPA support to have only one regulation but need to take care about the communication.

Richard DAMM : Germany join the option to have only one regulation but remind the group that we still need to use R44 products for the next 10 -15 years and we have to take care of the compatibility of the CRS with the car during this interim period.

CYBEX: there is an issue on the iSize car seat product with not iSize car. This remark will be discussed later in point 7.

The IWG CRS decided of the following resolutions :
  o Resolution 1 (CRS-39-05e) : about one single regulation ECE R (129) instead of having 2 parallel regulations
  o Resolution 2 (CRS-39-06e): definition of infant carrier

CRS-39-05 | CRS informal group Resolution 1 to transition from UN R44 to UN R129 The CRS informal group has decided to consolidate the three phases of its work into UN R<notextile>[129]</notextile> to avoid having two parallel CRS regulations. Once all phases have entered into force, approvals would cease under UN R44.

CRS-39-06 | CRS informal group Resolution 2 on specifications for infant carriers

6.1. Letter ANEC

Need to anticipate phase 3 for belted products.

CYBEX: comes back on the travel system according to the R44 product & iSize.

R44 baby infant carrier can be placed on iSize base until phase 3 will be finish. In order to have all in only one regulation.

Chairman: We need to found a way to clarify type approval of the baby infant carrier with belted installation during a short period (P dummy & Q dummy?).

Ronald: we have to be careful due to the responsibility of the misuse possibility.

Cybex : what about a base with belt routing or Isofix routing : iSize approval not possible.

Only the base will be marked iSize and the Type approval N° and there is only the type approval

N° on the baby infant carrier.

Add definition of the baby infant carrier into the regulation iSize.

What we need to do for phase 3 :

  • Define anchorage points (already start with TRL)
 
• Belt length
 
• Do we need to change performance criteria?
 
• Installation method for the belted product.

6.2. Presentation from HTS: Not performed

6.3. CLEPA Presentation (Doc. CRS-39-04e)

Proposition to position the iSize labelling on iSize base and the R44 labelling on baby infant carrier: once baby infant carrier is placed on iSize base, we can only see the iSize Label on the base (the R44 label under the baby infant carrier should not be visible). R44 vs iSize: do nothing or add a consumer information label in a visible location.

Chairman: do not speak about iSize (label, sizing,…) on the R44 baby infant carrier.

DOREL, we just add a extra information on the shell (mass group).

CRS-39-04 | CLEPA presentation on i-size CRS labeling and infant carriers

7.1. I-Size CRS on ISOFIX positions

7.2. ISOFIX CRS on I-Size positions

Back on documents: CRS-24-07e & CRS-24-08e and review of R16-06 Annex 17 Appendix 3 for the Isofix class identification.

Chairman: if car manufacturer asks for an extension to declare iSize seating position they need to add table 3 described in R16-06 Annex 17 Appendix 3 in the user manual. If there is no iSize seating position they do not need to add table 3 given in R16-06 annexe 17 appendixes 3.

Chairman: iSize is considered as a “super” Isofix then :

  o For forward facing CRS with top tether: compatible with all ISOFIX IUF positions in cars.
  o For forward facing CRS with support leg: put a list with specifics cars (seats) compatible.
  o For rearward facing CRS with top tether: compatible for all cars with ISOFIX “IL” positions declared “D” = R2.
  o For rearward facing CRS with support leg: not compatible for all cars with ISOFIX positions declared “D” = R2 => put a list with specific cars (seats) compatible.

Note according to R16 definition: IUF= suitable for ISOFIX forward child restraints systems of universal category approved for use in the mass group.

Not discussed.

Not discussed.