GRSG-108-30
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Corrigendum to the proposals for the draft 01 series of amendments to Regulation No. 39
Description
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Proposal from the GRSG secretariat to correct the definition of “Odometer” in documents GRSG/2015/15 and GRSG/2015/16.
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Document Reference Number: GRSG-108-30
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Document date: 01 May 15
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Document status: Superseded
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GRSG/2015/15 | Proposal for draft 01 series of amendments to Regulation No. 39
GRSG/2015/16 | Proposal for draft 01 series of amendments to Regulation No. 39
Related discussions
108th GRSG session (4-8
May 2015)
14. The expert from Belgium introduced ECE/TRANS/WP.29/GRSG/2015/15, as amended by GRSG-108-30, proposing to insert new provisions for the installation of odometers on vehicles. GRSG noted general support on the proposal.
15. Following the discussion, GRSG adopted ECE/TRANS/WP.29/GRSG/2015/15, as amended below, and requested the secretariat to submit it to WP.29 and the Administrative Committee of the 1958 Agreement (AC.1) for consideration at their November 2015 sessions, as draft 01 series of amendments to UN Regulation No. 39.
Paragraph 2.6., correct “information equipment” to read “odometer equipment”.
Paragraph 5.5.1., correct “odometer may be” to read “odometer shall be”.
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04 May 2015
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Working Party
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Informal Documents
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Speedometer Equipment
Speedometer Equipment
Uniform Provisions Concerning the Approval of Vehicles with regard to the Speedometer Equipment Including its Installation
Odometer equipment and its installation
Odometers
Proposal for new uniform provisions concerning the approval of vehicles with regard to the odometer equipment including its installation
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Proposal from the GRSG secretariat to correct the definition of "Odometer" in documents GRSG/2015/15 and GRSG/2015/16.
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GRSG-108-0030
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GRSG-108-37
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Protection against mileage fraud by common criteria
(FIA Foundation)
Document Reference Number: GRSG-108-37
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Submitted by: FIA Foundation
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Document date: 04 May 15
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108th GRSG session (4-8
May 2015)
16. The expert from FIA gave a presentation (GRSG-108-37) justifying the need for protection against mileage fraud and proposing to set up an informal working group on this subject. He presented ECE/TRANS/WP.29/GRSG/2015/16 proposing further amendments to the proposal submitted by Belgium and inserting a reference to the common criteria published in ISO/IEC 15408 (GRSG-108-06). He concluded that the common criteria would result in a higher level of stringency in the security requirements for odometers and thus improve the protection of odometers against mileage fraud. The expert from India raised concerns (GRSG-108-39) to the proposal from FIA. The expert from OICA introduced GRSG-108-38 clarifying the subject and presenting the concerns of the automotive industry to the proposal from FIA. GRSG experts were invited to send their comments to the expert from FIA. GRSG did not support the adoption of the proposal but agreed to keep ECE/TRANS/WP.29/GRSG/2015/16 and GRSG-108-38 on its agenda as a reference document for further consideration at its next session.
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05 May 2015
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Working Party
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Informal Documents
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Speedometer Equipment
Speedometer Equipment
Uniform Provisions Concerning the Approval of Vehicles with regard to the Speedometer Equipment Including its Installation
Odometer equipment and its installation
Odometers
Proposal for new uniform provisions concerning the approval of vehicles with regard to the odometer equipment including its installation
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GRSG-108-0037
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GRSG-108-38
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Comments on the proposed draft 01 series of amendments to Regulation No. 39
(OICA)
Description
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OICA comments expressing opposition to the proposed measures to combat odometer fraud in the used vehicle market.
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Document Reference Number: GRSG-108-38
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Submitted by: OICA
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Document date: 05 May 15
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GRSG/2015/16 | Proposal for draft 01 series of amendments to Regulation No. 39
GRSG-109-04 | Comments on informal document GRSG-108-38 on Regulation No. 39
Related discussions
108th GRSG session (4-8
May 2015)
16. The expert from FIA gave a presentation (GRSG-108-37) justifying the need for protection against mileage fraud and proposing to set up an informal working group on this subject. He presented ECE/TRANS/WP.29/GRSG/2015/16 proposing further amendments to the proposal submitted by Belgium and inserting a reference to the common criteria published in ISO/IEC 15408 (GRSG-108-06). He concluded that the common criteria would result in a higher level of stringency in the security requirements for odometers and thus improve the protection of odometers against mileage fraud. The expert from India raised concerns (GRSG-108-39) to the proposal from FIA. The expert from OICA introduced GRSG-108-38 clarifying the subject and presenting the concerns of the automotive industry to the proposal from FIA. GRSG experts were invited to send their comments to the expert from FIA. GRSG did not support the adoption of the proposal but agreed to keep ECE/TRANS/WP.29/GRSG/2015/16 and GRSG-108-38 on its agenda as a reference document for further consideration at its next session.
17. Referring to the role of his organization, the expert from FIA recalled the purpose of ECE/TRANS/WP.29/GRSG/2015/16 proposing further provisions on the protection against mileage fraud. He introduced GRSG-109-04 justifying the need to establish an informal working group (IWG) on anti-tampering measures for electronic vehicle interfaces, such as odometer, and underlining the need to cope, in a more general manner, with risks of in-vehicle technologies and cyber security. His proposal to set up an IWG received the support of a number of experts. However, some other experts felt it was too premature to set up such an IWG as WP.29 already established, under its IWG on Intelligent Transport Systems (ITS), a subgroup on “Automated Driving” dealing with this subject among others. Therefore, they preferred to start on the basis of an expert group first. The expert from FIA volunteered to organize in the near future a Task Force meeting in Paris. Thus, he invited all interested experts to contact him (lpascotto@fia.com).
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06 May 2015
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Working Party
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Informal Documents
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Speedometer Equipment
Speedometer Equipment
Uniform Provisions Concerning the Approval of Vehicles with regard to the Speedometer Equipment Including its Installation
Odometer equipment and its installation
Odometers
Proposal for new uniform provisions concerning the approval of vehicles with regard to the odometer equipment including its installation
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OICA comments expressing opposition to the proposed measures to combat odometer fraud in the used vehicle market.
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GRSG-108-0038
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GRSG-108-39
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Comments on the proposed draft 01 series of amendments to Regulation No. 39
(India)
Description
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India comments raising concerns over the feasibility of the proposal to combat odometer fraud in used car sales.
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Document Reference Number: GRSG-108-39
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Submitted by: India
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Document date: 05 May 15
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Related regulations or topics
Related documents
GRSG/2015/16 | Proposal for draft 01 series of amendments to Regulation No. 39
Related discussions
108th GRSG session (4-8
May 2015)
16. The expert from FIA gave a presentation (GRSG-108-37) justifying the need for protection against mileage fraud and proposing to set up an informal working group on this subject. He presented ECE/TRANS/WP.29/GRSG/2015/16 proposing further amendments to the proposal submitted by Belgium and inserting a reference to the common criteria published in ISO/IEC 15408 (GRSG-108-06). He concluded that the common criteria would result in a higher level of stringency in the security requirements for odometers and thus improve the protection of odometers against mileage fraud. The expert from India raised concerns (GRSG-108-39) to the proposal from FIA. The expert from OICA introduced GRSG-108-38 clarifying the subject and presenting the concerns of the automotive industry to the proposal from FIA. GRSG experts were invited to send their comments to the expert from FIA. GRSG did not support the adoption of the proposal but agreed to keep ECE/TRANS/WP.29/GRSG/2015/16 and GRSG-108-38 on its agenda as a reference document for further consideration at its next session.
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06 May 2015
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Working Party
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Informal Documents
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Speedometer Equipment
Speedometer Equipment
Uniform Provisions Concerning the Approval of Vehicles with regard to the Speedometer Equipment Including its Installation
Odometer equipment and its installation
Odometers
Proposal for new uniform provisions concerning the approval of vehicles with regard to the odometer equipment including its installation
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India comments raising concerns over the feasibility of the proposal to combat odometer fraud in used car sales.
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GRSG-108-0039
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GRSG-108-42
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Proposal for amendments to UN Regulation No. 39
(EC)
Description
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Proposal to update requirements for numeric/digital displays.
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Document Reference Number: GRSG-108-42
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Submitted by: EC
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Document date: 05 May 15
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Document status: Superseded
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GRSG-109-13 | Proposal for amendments to the 01 series of amendments to Regulation No. 39
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108th GRSG session (4-8
May 2015)
17. The expert from EC introduced GRSG-108-42 proposing to amend the requirements for numeric displays of speedometers. The Chair invited all experts to send their comments to the expert from EC and to resume consideration of the subject at the next GRSG session on the basis of an official document to be submitted by the expert from EC.
18. The expert from EC presented GRSG-109-13 proposing to amend the requirements for numeric displays of speedometers. GRSG noted general support of the proposal. The expert from UK stated that some vehicles of category L should be added. GRSG agreed to resume consideration of this subject at its next session on the basis of an official document to be submitted by the expert from EC, taking into account the comments received.
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06 May 2015
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Working Party
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Informal Documents
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Speedometer Equipment
Speedometer Equipment
Uniform Provisions Concerning the Approval of Vehicles with regard to the Speedometer Equipment Including its Installation
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Proposal to update requirements for numeric/digital displays.
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GRSG-108-0042
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GRSG/2015/15
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Proposal for draft 01 series of amendments to Regulation No. 39
(Belgium)
Description
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Proposal to insert performance requirements for the installation of odometers on vehicles.
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Document Reference Number: GRSG/2015/15
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Submitted by: Belgium
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Document date: 19 Feb 15
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Document status: Superseded
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GRSG-107-29/Rev.1 | Proposal for draft amendments to Regulation No. 39
GRSG/2014/32 | Proposal for amendments to Regulation No. 39
GRSG/2015/16 | Proposal for draft 01 series of amendments to Regulation No. 39
GRSG-108-30 | Corrigendum to the proposals for the draft 01 series of amendments to Regulation No. 39
WP.29/2015/83 | Proposal for the 01 series of amendments to Regulation No. 39
Related discussions
108th GRSG session (4-8
May 2015)
14. The expert from Belgium introduced ECE/TRANS/WP.29/GRSG/2015/15, as amended by GRSG-108-30, proposing to insert new provisions for the installation of odometers on vehicles. GRSG noted general support on the proposal.
15. Following the discussion, GRSG adopted ECE/TRANS/WP.29/GRSG/2015/15, as amended below, and requested the secretariat to submit it to WP.29 and the Administrative Committee of the 1958 Agreement (AC.1) for consideration at their November 2015 sessions, as draft 01 series of amendments to UN Regulation No. 39.
Paragraph 2.6., correct “information equipment” to read “odometer equipment”.
Paragraph 5.5.1., correct “odometer may be” to read “odometer shall be”.
10. The expert from Belgium introduced ECE/TRANS/WP.29/GRSG/2014/32, proposing new requirements for odometers into UN Regulation No. 39. She presented GRSG-107-29-Rev.1 amending her proposal to include the comments received by the expert from OICA (GRSG-107-20). GRSG supported in principle the proposal. However, there was a general agreement among experts that the mandatory fitting of odometers should be completed by transitional provisions, anti-tampering requirements and type approval markings. GRSG agreed to resume consideration on this subject at its May 2015 session on the basis of a revised proposal from the expert of Belgium and on a proposal of transitional provisions from the experts of OICA and IMMA.
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25 Feb 2015
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Working Party
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Formal Documents
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Speedometer Equipment
Speedometer Equipment
Uniform Provisions Concerning the Approval of Vehicles with regard to the Speedometer Equipment Including its Installation
Odometer equipment and its installation
Odometers
Proposal for new uniform provisions concerning the approval of vehicles with regard to the odometer equipment including its installation
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Proposal to insert performance requirements for the installation of odometers on vehicles.
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GRSG/2015/0015
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GRSG/2015/16
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Proposal for draft 01 series of amendments to Regulation No. 39
(FIA Foundation)
Description
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Proposal to add anti-fraud provisions and test procedures to the Belgian proposal to include odometers under UN R39 (i.e., document GRSG/2015/15).
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Document Reference Number: GRSG/2015/16
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Submitted by: FIA Foundation
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Document date: 19 Feb 15
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Document status: Rejected
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More information
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Related regulations or topics
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GRSG/2015/15 | Proposal for draft 01 series of amendments to Regulation No. 39
GRSG-108-30 | Corrigendum to the proposals for the draft 01 series of amendments to Regulation No. 39
GRSG-108-38 | Comments on the proposed draft 01 series of amendments to Regulation No. 39
GRSG-108-39 | Comments on the proposed draft 01 series of amendments to Regulation No. 39
Related discussions
108th GRSG session (4-8
May 2015)
16. The expert from FIA gave a presentation (GRSG-108-37) justifying the need for protection against mileage fraud and proposing to set up an informal working group on this subject. He presented ECE/TRANS/WP.29/GRSG/2015/16 proposing further amendments to the proposal submitted by Belgium and inserting a reference to the common criteria published in ISO/IEC 15408 (GRSG-108-06). He concluded that the common criteria would result in a higher level of stringency in the security requirements for odometers and thus improve the protection of odometers against mileage fraud. The expert from India raised concerns (GRSG-108-39) to the proposal from FIA. The expert from OICA introduced GRSG-108-38 clarifying the subject and presenting the concerns of the automotive industry to the proposal from FIA. GRSG experts were invited to send their comments to the expert from FIA. GRSG did not support the adoption of the proposal but agreed to keep ECE/TRANS/WP.29/GRSG/2015/16 and GRSG-108-38 on its agenda as a reference document for further consideration at its next session.
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25 Feb 2015
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Working Party
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Formal Documents
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Speedometer Equipment
Speedometer Equipment
Uniform Provisions Concerning the Approval of Vehicles with regard to the Speedometer Equipment Including its Installation
Odometer equipment and its installation
Odometers
Proposal for new uniform provisions concerning the approval of vehicles with regard to the odometer equipment including its installation
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Proposal to add anti-fraud provisions and test procedures to the Belgian proposal to include odometers under UN R39 (i.e., document GRSG/2015/15).
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GRSG/2015/0016
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